Zul'Aman Requirements

I would first like to say, that ZA has from what I can tell, a 2 day reset timer, which means that we could run the place 3 times a week, so keep that in mind :-)

I would also like to say that ZA is a raid meant to bridge the gear gap between Kara/Gruul and the later raids such as Mag, SSC, and The Eye

If you have any questions about your class requirements, please refer to your class lead, who will be happy to answer any questions and help you decide what you need to get/do to become ZA ready

- these are the base minimums

WARRIORS
TANKS - 13.5k hp unbuffed - 500 defense - 60 hit rating - 22% dodge - 16% Parry - 24% block - 15k armor - (MUST BE SPECCED PROT)

DPS - 11k unbuffed - 1700ap (w/o battle shout) - 27%+ Crit Chance - 150+ hit rating - 9k armor

DRUIDS
Feral Tankers:
30k armor, 16k HP unbuffed, 32% dodge, crit immunity.

Feral DPSers:
2.8k AP, >5% hit, 32% crit, 8.5k HP.

Balance:
800 +damage, 8.5k HP, 10k mana, 12% hit, 22% crit, 130 MP5

Resto:
1500 +healing, 8.5k HP, 10k mana, 125 MP5 or 400 Spirit.

HUNTERS
600+ Ranged Damage, 1650 AP, 20% Ranged Crit (this is the lowest minimum allowed and will most likely be updated once we get in there more)

PRIESTS
Discipline or Disc/Holy Hybrids:
1500+ Healing, 11k mana, 8k health, 150 mp5 casting or 480 spirit

Deep Holy:
1700+ Healing, 10k mana, 8k health, 150 mp5 casting or 480 spirit

Shadow:
900+ Shadow Damage, 9.5k mana, 8k health, 450+ sustained DPS

SHAMANS
- All Shaman health should be at least 8k+

- Resto: 1600+ Healing, 10k+ Mana

- Enhancement: 1400+ AP, dual weilding 75+ DPS weapons (slow MH/slow OH, no exceptions for fast off-hands), NO 2-HANDER DPS

- Elemental: 800+ Nature Damage

MAGES UNBUFFED
800 Spell Damage
8% Spell Hit (with talents)
25% Spell Crit
7500 Health
8500 Mana
Raid Spec of 10/48/3 (My spec follows for confused mages)
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-t...27arak&n=Kiras

ROGUES
Combat
1500 AP, 250+ top-end damage on MH weapon
500+ sustained DPS

Subtlety
25% base Melee Crit, 80+ DPS weapon in MH
500+ sustained DPS

Assassination
25% base Melee Crit, 80+ DPS weapon in MH and OH
500+ sustained DPS

WARLOCKSAffliction
75+ Spell Hit-850-1k spell dmg (more shadow oriented) - 10k+ hp

Demonology
30+ Spell Hit - 17-19% Spell Crit - 750-800 Spell dmg - 12k+ hp

Destruction
45+ Spell Hit - 13%+ Spell Crit - 700+ Spell dmg - 9k hp - 10k mp

PALADINS
Holy
- 1400 +Healing
- 10K Mana
- 8k Health
- 175 Mp5
- 21%-22% Spell Crit

Protection
- 12K Health Unbuffed
- 490 Defense
- 300 Spell damage
- 15k Armor
- 102.4% combined dodge/parry/block/miss with Holy Shield

So what if I dont carry that amount of dmg but I could carry a certain amount of sustained dps as a warlock?
~Noxx

workin on spell hit gear...

these are basic guidelines, to put out the sustained dmg needed you would pretty much have to match these numbers to some degree

like for example my AP is a little under 1500, but my hit rating and spec make up for it in raw DPS.
I'm considered ZA ready without hitting the exact number required because my dps is above what is required as a minimum.
it would be the same for any other dps class.

Zerker

exactly Zerker, and btw the pally stuff has been updated

I just think the numbers for locks are a little off. Why does demo locks need 17+ crit while destro only needs 13+ that doesnt make any sense at all considering demo doesnt even rely on crit they rely on and in order dmg/hit/stm crit is the last thing to worry about. Im just gonna throw it out there this is what I think it should look like feel free to argue with me locks I welcome it . And just to clarify I already exceed what it is needed im just trying to make this fair for everyone and it just bugs me how off these numbers seem.

WARLOCKS
Affliction
70+ Spell Hit-800+ shadow dmg- 10k+ hp
These stats can come after blood pact and fel armor.
Demonology
70+ Spell Hit - 800+ spell dmg - 12k+ hp
These stats should come after fel armor you have alot of options on what pet to use.
Destruction
70+ Spell hit - 650+ spell dmg - 16% base crit - 9k+ hp/mana
Destro relys heavily on hit/crit and in the most common destro build 0/21/40 there mana is fine from a sacced felhunter. They rely on hit alot more than the other builds becuase of there bolts, which in the other builds dots can be easily reapplied. They definitly rely on crit becuase shadowbolts debuff is there main point of dmg even with the lower amount of spell dmg they have they can easily keep up with the other build with that amount of crit. Theres alot of different destro builds but these stats should come after just fel armor.

Original numbers
WARLOCKSAffliction
75+ Spell Hit-850-1k spell dmg (more shadow oriented) - 10k+ hp

Demonology
30+ Spell Hit - 17-19% Spell Crit - 750-800 Spell dmg - 12k+ hp

Destruction
45+ Spell Hit - 13%+ Spell Crit - 700+ Spell dmg - 9k hp - 10k mp

actually no, Nox you have only been cleared for first half or Kara, as I already told you, because your numbers don't quite rank up and your dps is sub par for ZA

let me just say it now, the ZA requirements are not up for debate

I have 866 shadow dmg/+82 hit/10260 hp and im full affliction that meets your requirments for ZA. The armory doesnt show me in my raid gear I wear different when I solo. As for no debate fine but your numbers still dont make sense to me but ill fold and ill go with it.

I just want to make it clear so I can concentrate on changing my gear.

I should start replacing my +healing gear (have +1825) for crit gear to get it up to 21-22%?

+healing gear isn't everything, its nice to have a good mix of stats that deal with healing such as Mp5 and Crit (for pallies)

My spell crit and healing is almost up there, but is 175mp5 just from gear O.o or is it just total when not casting? If so I might need some mp5 armor kits pvp paladin gear is not mana regen friendly.

That's because PvP gear =/= PvE gear.

tru dat

noob qwestion.....how do I determine sustained DpS? referring to the rogue requirements....

If you have questions about where your DPS is at, run a heroic or Kara with someone who has damage meters running and ask them nicely to tell you what your DPS is registering as.

Try installing this
http://www.wowinterface.com/download...WStats2Fu.html
it works with fubar.
it will tell you the dps you do, and can also show you the dps of everyone inthe group, so you can see who is pulling their weight.

Zerker

hahaha...SWStats...I knew that. One of these days I'll stop for a second and think before I post

Thank you!

After the two ZA raids i've been to and after adjusting my gear some for the second, i would say Zoph's numbers are pretty right. I would up the damage for aff locks to start at 1k base shadow damage, and i would say the hit is pretty on to start i would go with more if you want to ensure you dont miss and dots stick for their full times. My stats are as follow +76 hit +1200 and some change shadow damage, I was only resisted maybe 8 times the whole raid, and missed with 2 shadow bolts. Those are just my observations. I unfortunately don't know about the other 2 specs as far as requirements, but i'm sure we'll see how they play out soon.

I would have to say +hit is very very important! I got resisted about 20 times last night....and over 120+hit. Plus talents I raid with a +12.6% chance to hit. On the one boss I got resisted 3x in a row and a total of 5 resists in the fight.